Interview: Joel Fox Fighting for Government Reform

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Joel Fox spent years battling the state establishment as president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association. Now he’s battling many of those same players, this time on behalf of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Fox is co-chairman of Citizens to Save California, the group established to raise funds and campaign for the slate of initiatives the governor is backing for a possible special election this fall. But a counterattack has been launched by public employee unions and Democrats in the state Legislature. Already abandoned by Schwarzenegger are the pension and teachers’ pay initiatives. Meanwhile, Citizens to Save California has raised $11 million towards its goal of $50 million.



Question: How did you become an adviser to the governor?

Answer:

I first did some informal consulting on state tax policy for Schwarzenegger three years ago when he was trying to pass Proposition 49, the after-school programs initiative. Then, in July of 2003, I got a call from (Schwarzenegger campaign adviser) George Gorton asking me if I would like to join the Schwarzenegger gubernatorial effort. But then I was told that the campaign was on life-support because Schwarzenegger was leaning toward not running.



Q: So what happened next?

A:

Peter Ueberroth’s folks called and asked me if I would like to join their team. I told them my first commitment was to Arnold. I was actually sitting in (Ueberroth’s) office in Newport Beach when Schwarzenegger surprised everyone on the Jay Leno show and announced he was running. Peter then asked me to leave the room I was already considered part of a rival campaign. The next thing I knew I was senior policy consultant to Schwarzenegger.



Q: What was the campaign like?

A:

It was the strangest and most amazing campaign I had ever been a part of. With all the court rulings and uncertainty, you never really knew if the election was on, on-hold or off completely. My highlight came early on. I was attending a President Bush event in Orange County when Warren Buffett made his comments (about having to change) Proposition 13. All the press at the Bush event then immediately turned to me because of my long connection with Proposition 13 and demanded a response. I hurriedly got on the phone to Schwarzenegger’s folks and said, “We need to do something here.” That’s when he told the press that he had ordered Buffett to do 500 push-ups.



Q: Well, what about Proposition 13? Is it time for the initiative to be scrapped or tinkered with?

A:

Proposition 13 is not ruining the state’s finances or the state economy. The only thing I would change is some of what the Legislature did after Proposition 13 passed namely taking some tax collection power away from the local governments and pushing it up to Sacramento. I want to see some of that power restored to local governments. That can be done with an initiative statute without amending the constitution.



Q: So the proposition has not ruined state finances?

A:

Absolutely not. In fact, since Proposition 13 went into effect 27 years ago, state property tax revenues have been the most stable income stream for state and local governments, growing an average of 7 percent per year. That’s above the rate of inflation and population growth. If that doesn’t provide enough money for governments, it’s because their priorities are wrong, not because we’ve choked off the money.



Q: What about removing Proposition 13 protections from commercial property owners in cases where 50 percent of the ownership changes hands?

A:

I’m opposed to this split-roll proposal. Commercial property does not change hands at a slower rate than residential properties and in fact makes up two-thirds of overall property taxes.



Q: Back to Schwarzenegger. After he got elected, what was your role?

A:

I was put in charge of getting a campaign together to put a workers’ compensation reform initiative on the ballot.



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The full interview

is available in the May 23 edition of the Los Angeles Business Journal.

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